TMUG List

From TMUG - The Triangle Macintosh Users Group

The TMUG-list email list is free to use & open to anyone, and is aimed at those interested in Macintosh computers. It primarily serves Mac users in the Triangle area of central North Carolina, but has users across the globe. It is a general discussion list for anything Mac related. Post a question. Offer a hint. Simple or esoteric — you should get a response soon.

Subscribe to the List

In order to post to the TMUG-list discussion list, you will need to subscribe to the list from the TMUG-list Info Page and fill out the web form, or by sending a subscribe request email to tmug-list-request@list.tmug.org with the subject subscribe from the email address you want to use to receive & send posts to the list. In the body of the email type: subscribe tmug-list YOUR_FIRST_NAME YOUR_LAST_NAME. Do not write anything else in the email. A subscription confirmation email will be sent to you by Mailman, the listserv app. Once you have confirmed, the request will be held for approval by a list admin. The process usually takes less than a day. Read TMUG-list Subscription Notes & Hints below for more info.

Posting to the TMUG List

To post a message, you may send an email to tmug-list@list.tmug.org from your email client. Your message will then be sent out to all of the people who are subscribed to the TMUG-list.

Tip : If you have already subscribed to the TMUG list, the above link should open a new email in your email client.

The few rules are simple:

Keep posts related to Macintosh, Apple Computers, & affiliated topics.
No flaming or profanity, please.
The maximum size of an email is 250 kb, including attachments. Email posts over the 250 kb size limit are held & will not post.

Some hints & suggestions:

Be succinct.
Clearly identify your topic in the subject of your email.
If you subscribe to the list as a digest, replace the subject line with that of the original post so your reply is more specific than Re: Contents of TMUG-list digest....
Web site references are preferred to attachments.

Tip : You must send the email from the email address that you used to subscribe to the list. List emails sent from unsubscribed addresses will be held & will not post to the list.

This TMUG-list is not moderated. But subscribers who misuse & abuse the list may be unsubscribed by the list administrators. TMUG-list is for you… so make the most of it. Think different!

TMUG-list Subscription Notes & Hints

Questions & comments are occasionally voiced about use of the TMUG-list discussion list, including subscribing & managing your list membership. These notes will serve as reminders & help provide clarification.

In order to post a message to the TMUG-list, you must be subscribed to the list with the email address from which you are sending the post. If you have multiple addys that you want to post from, each addy will need to be subscribed to TMUG-list. Mailman (the listserv app) will not know that Joe Schmoe with the addy of <joeschmoe@desertbird.com> is the same person with the addy of <jschmoe@tmug.org>. After subscribing to the list with additional addys, disable mail delivery for those addys to avoid receiving duplicate list posts. Another alternative to multiple list subscriptions may be to set up your email client to use multiple accounts or personalities.

There are 2 ways you may subscribe to TMUG-list.
- [1] Visit the TMUG-list info page <http://list.tmug.org/mailman/listinfo/tmug-list>, scroll down to Subscribing to TMUG-list & follow the directions: enter your email addy, your real name, pick a password, re-enter the password, choose whether you want list mail delivered as a digest (The default of "No" gets you each individual post to the list.), & click the "Subscribe" button. You will see a confirmation page that your subscription request has been received. Check your email to receive a confirmation message. This is usually within 24 hours of the subscription request – your subscription must be approved first. Follow the instructions & either reply to the email, or click the enclosed link to go to the Confirm subscription request page, then click the "Subscribe to list TMUG-list" button. Check your email to receive a subscription confirmation which will include your TMUG-list auto-generated password. You may log into your membership page & change the password to one of your choice.
- [2] Send a subscription request email to the list from the addy you want to subscribe using the link <mailto:tmug-list-request@list.tmug.org?subject=subscribe>. Mailman will return a confirmatory email. This is usually within 24 hours of the subscription request – your subscription must be approved first. Follow the instructions & either reply to the email, or click the enclosed link to go to the Confirm subscription request page, & click the "Subscribe to list TMUG-list" button. Check your email to receive a subscription confirmation which will include your TMUG-list auto-generated password. You may log into your membership page & change the password to one of your choice.

Once subscribed to the list, you may post to the list by sending an email to <mailto:tmug-list@list.tmug.org>. Use common email etiquette. Be succinct. Clearly identify your topic in the subject of your email. Attachments are acceptable, up to a maximum total email size of 250 kb. Email posts over the 250 kb size limit are held & will not post.
Discussion is encouraged with the TMUG-list. But, email etiquette (netiquette) should be followed.
- It's often helpful to trim superfluous data from a reply, e.g. a repeating footer.
- If you want to post a new topic to the list, create a new email message addressed to <TMUG-list@list.tmug.org>. Do not reply to another message, deleting the message body & changing the subject. Or worse, don't change the topic & keep the previous topic's subject. This "hijacking" breaks the current thread & the discussion gets out of sync.
- Some people choose to insert their comments within a quoted reply. This can be helpful if there are several items referenced in a reply.
- If you subscribe to the list as a digest, edit the subject line of your reply to the topic of discussion (the subject of the original post) rather than the default "Re: Contents of TMUG-list digest...". Delete the messages in the digest that are not pertinent to your reply.
- Google "email etiquette" for more discussions of email & `net etiquette.

If Mailman returns a bounce message, there is a problem with the subscription of the addy from which the post is mailed. Perhaps the addy is not subscribed, the subscription is not confirmed, the subscription has been disabled due to excessive bounces, or some other reason. If you have a list subscription problem or other question, send an email to <mailto:tmug-list-owner@list.tmug.org>. Be sure to include detailed documentation of the problem.

If you want to modify your subscription options, you may do so via the TMUG-list info page. Go to <http://list.tmug.org/mailman/listinfo/tmug-list>, scroll down to TMUG-list subscribers, enter your addy, & click the "Unsubscribe or edit options" button. [a] You may be taken to a TMUG-list list: member options for user <your addy> page. Enter your password & click the "Log in" button. [b] You will be logged in at the TMUG-list mailing list membership configuration for <your addy>, <your name> page, where you will see your subscription settings.
- Here you may change your subscription addy, real name (Please enter your name with your subscription.), list password, or have your password emailed to you. Click the appropriate button to enter the change.
- Scroll down to Your TMUG-list Subscription Options to make changes to your subscription. The settings here are optimized for most subscribers, but you may want to change delivery options.
  - Under Mail delivery, select "Disabled"' if you want to stay subscribed, but don't want mail delivered to you for a while (e.g. you're going on vacation). If you disable mail delivery, don't forget to re-enable it when you come back; it will not be automatically re-enabled.
  - If you prefer to receive the TMUG-list posts bundled as periodic digests rather than as individual posts, click "On"' under Set Digest Mode.

If you decide you no longer want to receive posts from TMUG-list, you may unsubscribe with 1 of 2 ways that are similar to subscribing.
- [1] Visit the TMUG-list info page <http://list.tmug.org/mailman/listinfo/tmug-list>, scroll down to TMUG-list subscribers, enter your addy, & click the "Unsubscribe or edit options"' button.
  - [a] You may be taken to a TMUG-list list: member options for user <your addy> page. Click the "Unsubscribe" button midway down the page. A confirmation message will be emailed to you. This message will have a link that you must click to complete the removal process (you may also confirm by email - see the instructions in the confirmation message).
  - [b] You may be taken directly to the TMUG-list mailing list membership configuration for <your addy>, <your name> page. Go to Unsubscribing from TMUG-list. Click the confirmation' checkbox & click the "Unsubscribe" button.
- [2] Send an unsubscribe request email to the list from the addy you want to unsubscribe using the following link: <mailto:tmug-list-request@list.tmug.org?subject=unsubscribe>. Mailman will return a list removal confirmatory email. Follow the instructions & either reply to the email; or click the enclosed link to go to the 'Confirm unsubscription request page, & click the "Unsubscribe" button. Your unsubscription will be confirmed via web & email.

Archives of the list are available to the public at <http://list.tmug.org/pipermail/tmug-list/>. (This link is also under the community section of the sidebar on the TMUG website, on the TMUG-list info page, & at the bottom of each email from the list.) This is a good resource of past discussion topics. After connecting to the TMUG-list archive page, select the month & year, & then select to display by date, thread, subject, or author.
The TMUG-list is a public, non-moderated list, as is the <http://www.tmug.org> website. Anyone on the `net may subscribe to the list, whether a member of TMUG or not. Of course, we encourage & invite subscribers to the list to join TMUG to take advantage of member only benefits, such as server space for your own website & discounts made available by the Apple User Group Advisory Board.
The list of subscribers to TMUG-list is private. It is only viewable by the list administrators. The list admins approve who subscribes to the list, & disallow any subscription that appears to not be legitimate. The list admins reserve the right to unsubscribe or place on moderation anyone who abuses his privileges on the list. (So far, this has not been necessary.)
Additional help for use of the list is available by sending email to <mailto:tmug-list-request@list.tmug.org?subject=help>. Mailman will return a message with various "help" commands that may be sent to the list to make subscription modifications or to get more info.